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Brexit!
Topic Started: Tue 24 Jan 2017, 19:08:12 (191 Views)
DAVIE
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Gina Miller won. The Law seems to be above the Government. I don't believe the people of Britain needed this to muddy the waters even further.

But the big question I have is...Who the hell is this Gina Miller? I have not heard of her in my life!
Edited by DAVIE, Tue 24 Jan 2017, 20:30:35.
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Reggie Peppery
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Exactly! Who are you? One of Farages most memorable quotes!!! She wasn't born in Britain, that much we do know!

Anyways we appear to be teetering on the edge of mass riots and civil disobedience...Its seems to be a powderkeg and a lot of people are determined to throw matches around, be interesting to see how this ends! Of course this isn't really about the government or the law Lords, its about big business and globalisation vs the working class. Same thing is happening right now in America, though incredibly it is the Republican party (albeit Trump is dragging them kicking and screaming) that is on the side of the working class vs the Democratic party who are desperate to get Wall Street back in the White House...

Somebody once said "The end is nigh", insightful words as always.
Edited by Reggie Peppery, Tue 24 Jan 2017, 20:59:52.
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Is she British? I shall have to look into her back story. But yes, perhaps this is a clever scheme made by the higher elite in league with the politicians to keep us exactly where we are. Then when we don't leave the politicians will try and blame someone else for preventing us to leave. The problem with that plan is that the public wouldn't fall for it. They would create civil unrest.

I don't want to go back to talking about Mr Flatulance but I'm staying cynical when it comes to a mutli billionaire elitist I'm afraid Reggie. I hardly think he will give the people the non for profit healthcare that we and many other countries rely on. Nor will he create a real welfare system for the elderly, disabled, unemployed and vulnerable. He will try and run the country like a corporation. But I will keep an open mind and see whether that pathway would help the people.
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Reggie Peppery
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Davie, please don't think I believe Trump anymore than I believed Bush or Obama, however he is promising change... The Democratic party once promised change & hope but look how that ended, no change and no hope! Trump at least went to the rust belts and engaged the people there, for that alone they are willing to give him a try, can you blame them?.

Brexit, Trump, Le Pen, Holland, Austria, Germany...The people are rejecting capitalism, it has been a failed experiment, the 2007 financial crash is beginning to bear fruits, and its coming up plums!!! People right now are prepared to gamble everything they have (if anything) to invoke change at the moment, and no amount of state sponsored doom mongering is shaking them!

It is so unpredictable at the moment, as far as I can see America is descending into a full blown class war (many don't understand they are being manipulated, played like fish by big business, like those on the recent Woman's March).

Britain, if Brexit is denied, may also, who knows? Who cares? France is on the brink edge, same as Austria - however Germany is the country to really watch.

It is all the same issues, it is a global movement.

That's my take, as a neutral bystander.

Reggie
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I don't think capitalism will go away. It's nationalism that is on the rise and it goes hand in hand with capitalism. Look at National Socialism. It was really totaltarian capitalism. Part of me thinks maybe global capitalism will change. But after the very recent deals for closer relationships between the UK and USA banks...It makes me think otherwise. In fact Britain will be doomed if we continue down that path. We need to take a leaf out of Canada's and Scandinavia's book who have completely independent banks who obey the state.
Edited by DAVIE, Wed 25 Jan 2017, 10:48:28.
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Here we go....If The House of Lords wanted to create further public disgust and hatred then they surely have succeeded! Theresa May will now have to overturn The House of Lords plans to delay Brexit for 2 years next week. I despise her like I despise Thatcher, but I hope she wins on this one.

I have been neutral on The House of Lords, but within the last few weeks I completely see the need for it's absolute removal.
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