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Dispute between Morrissey & Universal Music

Posted by mammaof3 (Mods) at Today, 6:54 AM. One comment

Since this seems to be an ongoing dispute, it deserves its own thread:

Universal Music, London
19 November 2015

Universal Music, London

David Joseph at Universal Music in London has refused the request made by Morrissey and the band to re-issue 'I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris' as a loving tribute to the lives lost in the Paris atrocities. David Joseph is instead arranging his own tribute to Paris utilizing his current crop of Universal artists.
The photograph below is Morrissey singing 'I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris' to an audience of 12,000 in Chile last week.

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photograph taken by Trinity.


Morrissey, tonight in Sao Paulo
20 November 2015

Morrissey, tonight in Sao Paulo
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Universal Music
25 November 2015

Universal Music

Universal Music (London) have denied refusing to re-issue Morrissey's I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris in support of the victims of the recent Paris atrocities.
Morrissey is in possession of a letter from John Reid at Russells (London) in which it is clearly stated that David Joseph of Universal Music (London) has no interest in re-issuing I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris, but has instead planned his own tribute to the Paris victims for December which will only involve current Universal bands.
Universal Music has claimed to be "hurt" by the suggestion that such a letter exists.
The letter can be freely made available to anyone who wishes to read it.

24 November 2015



Universal Music, the approach made to David Joseph, since denied by David Joseph
25 November 2015

Universal Music, the approach made to David Joseph, since denied by David Joseph

On 18 Nov 2015, at 15:29, Boz Boorer -------------------- wrote:

Dear David,

My name is Boz Boorer and I represent all of the musicians who played

We are shocked that you have made no move this week to promote the
above song (download/special 7-inch/special CD) to support the people
of Paris. Any other artist would be number 1 with this song RIGHT NOW.

Why are you doing nothing? There is no other song in modern music that
aptly supports the people of Paris.

Most sincerely yours




From: John Reid --------------------
Date: November 19, 2015 at 6:39:51 PM GMT-2
To: Boz Boorer --------------------
Subject: Re: Paris

Dear Boz

Thank you for copying your email to me.

I think we all know that this would be an appropriate and compelling gesture.

I spoke with David Joseph today. His position is that owing to Universal having a very close connection to the events, much as they see your point, they are not intending to release any records in response to the tragic events of last Friday. They feel it is too raw for them given the death of one of their staff members and instead they are going to show support and solidarity in other ways, including concerts in Paris later this year by some of their artists.

However, I believe that Universal would licence the song back for eg a release for proceeds to relevant charities (which I assume would be the plan). In short there may be a possibility here but it would have to be a release via a third party. Personally I think there could be a very forceful statement to be made. It will of course require M's input. Have you discussed this with him - I assume so.

If you want me to pursue this, please let me know. Time inevitably is of the essence.

Yours sincerely


John Reid
Russells Solicitors


TTY: Monarchy is Anarchy

Posted by JoanOfArc (Members) at Fri 20 Nov 2015, 09:05:54. One comment


Monarchy is Anarchy

18 November 2015

Monarchy is Anarchy

Morrissey Interview: Correiro Braziliense

Posted by crashingbore (Members) at Mon 2 Nov 2015, 02:14:51. 4 comments


Google translate:

Morrissey talks to mail before the show in the capital
In an exclusive interview, the English artist talks about politics, criticized the music industry and discusses the legacy of The Smiths

In terms of attitude, nothing compares to Steven Patrick Morrissey. The English artist, considered one of the most influential names in alternative and independent world stage, never hesitate to defend convictions that carry. Without fear and completely undisturbed with reviews, Moz was assumed vegetarian, he spoke about relations bisexual, criticized the English monarchy, questioned the phonographic trends, said he experienced a bachelor period, among other provocaões revealed over more than three -decade career.

But it was the music, primarily, he gave a lot of punches and generated poignant debates. Leader of the legendary band The Smiths, Morrissey overthrew the music scene of the 1980s and emerged as an alternative to the panorama of American pop instituted. The five years activity were enough to make the group one of the most celebrated names in alternative rock.

Solo, he continued to stand out by speech contrary to market and launched scathing discs. Recently released an autobiography - one of the greatest editorial successes of England - and returned to the pages of the world press because of esophageal cancer, which claims to be cured.

The Courier had the rare opportunity to chat with one of the most controversial artists of today. Before performing here on November 29, Moz was left questioning about The Smiths, policy positions and accumulated regrets. As for the show, showed no apprehension to face a city for the first time and only said to Brasilia: "I can not wait." The feeling is mutual.

Year that The Smiths ends

interview Morrissey

Have you ever been in Brazil a few times. Some atypical memory?
Atypical? Well, I usually remember São Paulo, where a blind girl climbed on stage and come to me. She handed me a note that read: "I can not see you but love you." I do not think it's something that has happened to the staff of Abba, for example.

You can expect your retirement? You mentioned the possibility in past times ...
I'm exhausted from lack of interest from record labels. There comes a time when it seems irrelevant keep some hope that someone will give faces and recognize its value.

You never hesitated to share his political convictions. As an artist and public figure, feels obliged to position?
We all have that desire. We are all involved in a political life and suffer the consequences of bad governments. If you part of the political assumption that have some kind of divine intellectual power, it is well mistaken.

There is something yet to be achieved as an artist?
I have a repertoire that love and count on the most loyal audience on the planet. My success is unique and I am not confused with any other artist. I never took advantage of my position and never let myself be exploited. My canoes were re-recorded by great artists and I can touch almost everyone. Even today, after 33 years and counting. I am blessed in every way.

I say it was fully understood?
Yes, but that's a double-edged sword. There will always be those who dislike you, but not because they do not understand you, but because you hit places within those people of which they themselves do not like. Therefore criticize.

(The full article is only available to subscribers of this periodical...)

Morrissey Interview: Latercera (Chile)

Posted by crashingbore (Members) at Mon 2 Nov 2015, 02:07:50. 5 comments


Google translate says:

Morrissey: "My life has always been chaotic"
The singer speaks with the third of its current health and concerts that will bring him back to Chile.

Steven Patrick Morrissey (56) said that his existence has not changed one iota. "My life has not changed at all," reaffirms the British. But reality says otherwise. Since 2013, the singer has faced some of the most lapidary health diagnoses his career, Barrett's esophagus, a bleeding ulcer, the threat of cancerous tissues and even double pneumonia, which has forced him to cancel almost fifty concerts has established among its followers fear for a possible drawdown of the artistic life.

But the singer, in conversation with La Tercera, away suspicions and says recent trips are almost part of your routine, "Yes, I lost a lot of hair due to some medicines, but I've never been a calm and stable life, so I expected a pace and pass the bill. My life has always been chaotic and travel a lot, step from hotel to hotel. Peace? I have no idea what or where is ".

It was precisely two years ago when former The Smiths woke one of the first troubling alerts about his fitness after suffering a serious food poisoning in Lima that led him to cancel a tour that included the unreleased batch of seven shows in Chile, with dates in Puerto Montt and Rancagua, and a free concert at Movistar Arena.

As a consolation, the singer returns this month with two stops on Wednesday 11 at the premises of O'Higgins Park and Saturday 14 headlining the festival Primavera Fauna Movistar (Puntoticket). "These are special shows, because they are in Chile. And that's enough for me. I always remember my performances there as very exciting and happy. And once you go to these concerts, they'll stop thinking and talking a lot about them. "

What happened in that chapter in Lima that left turn their Chilean fans?

I ate a plate of pasta with tomatoes and was under close medical supervision for ten days. It was terrible. I had to lay in the bathroom of pain and being in that situation, screaming. I could not understand what was happening to my body. Those who were with me were terribly frightened.

How was your recovery?

Today I feel pretty good and I have stopped thinking about cancer. We all have a cancer within us and, of course, is just a matter of whether or not you choose to attack us.

You have not thought to slow down the road?

I do not feel tired of shows, because they get better and better. Is travel, the air conditioning and the strange food that you attacks the nervous system. Our systems were not meant to be persistently exposed to different environments as dangerous.

Have you thought more often about the concept of death?

Do not.

You have no problem talking about his health and issues such as depression or sexuality. Do you think in that honesty, atypical pop figures, strong ties with their fans be explained?

I'm not one to say that. I am a very open person, which makes it interesting for some people, and in turn, dangerous to others. For example, in British culture, people and not even thinking. And I think that pop stars are gone. What we do have are the marketing star. Today it is impossible for a band comes surprisingly low profile in the rankings. All this success is bought and controlled brands. The result is prevailing mental castration.

Is that why you prefer working with artists of the past like Tom Jones or Nancy Sinatra?

Well, at least they have always followed the same line and have shown that they are very good.

In Chile he will sing at a festival. How did require what is sold is only vegetarian?

That was when I knew and loved that they had agreed. Animals need our help urgently. They need justice and want to live their own life. They are killed because they can not speak our language. Eating meat is a form of racism.

There are artists who require other things like not record with cellular or non selfies walk with sticks. Do you mind that?

It does not bother me. If people come to my show, then that night belongs to them.

Apart from his solo classics and a handful of songs from The Smiths, Morrissey devotes ample space to show their latest album, world peace is none of your business (2014), another solid collection of songs, in contrast, It was removed from iTunes and Spotify due to break with his label, Capitol / Harvest Records.

"I think today World peace is ... is heard by a new audience, which gives a new meaning, which has increased me a feeling of excitement, because it is people who hear music in 2015, therefore wants to be treated with understanding. We are tired of TV talent scout mentality, which insults us tremendously and has destroyed the music charts, "he analyzes.

How has it changed your way of writing about 90 albums?

This time I was very encouraged by the Arab Spring and the way the people were confronting the corrupt governments. Internet has changed the moral climate in the world and that's very good. We are no longer willing to pursue a life in chains. Why should I be? Moreover, this album is much better than I have done previously. A song like Smiler with knife is so meaningful to me that I can not even sing.

You applauds the contribution of the Internet, but their last album is not on many platforms.

I do not know much about it. I feel that rankings became ridiculous when downloading music was accepted. That should not be classified as sales, because people want to own a piece of art, which could be a CD or a vinyl. Major labels were those who wanted to get rid of the physical to save money and space. Usually all drastic changes are made by the seals.

His latest album has several political overtones. Do you have any opinion on the crisis of immigrants in Europe?

At this point, I think nobody takes care of anyone. Security does not exist. But I understand the position of migrants, because they are telling the world that they are opposed to staying undaunted by the rest of their lives, while White Trash jet set still driving the planet. Global poverty has been specifically designed, not an accident. That's what migrants are saying: we want what you have.

In recent MTV awards, Kanye West promised to run for US president Do you think that could be a solution to govern a country musician?

Of course I did not see this award. Today it does not matter who runs for office. On the other hand I do not think that politicians are superior beings, unlike all its language and its system is outdated. Actually, I'm burning with impatience because new people arrive.

Kanye Could be better than Obama?

Barack Obama was never good; there was simply no other choice.

People who are not interested in politics, they may be interested in football. Did you know that one of the main equipment of the city, Manchester, is run by a Chilean?

I never follow football. Round and round are given and have never come to anything.

Morrissey Interview: Estadao (Brazilian)

Posted by crashingbore (Members) at Sat 24 Oct 2015, 00:11:29. 3 comments

Another Brazilian interview:


It doesn't let me copy and paste from Google translate so I guess everyone has to do it themselves.

This one has even more humor. And also when asked about his health he says he is extremely well. :applause

They ask will he tour again, and he basically evades the question.

Morrissey Interview: Folha de Sao Paulo (Brazilian)

Posted by crashingbore (Members) at Fri 23 Oct 2015, 16:35:22. 9 comments

Here is the link:


Here is what Google translate said:

At 56, Morrissey says he does not know yet what will be the future career

10/23/2015 2:00 a.m.

How soon is the future of the composer of "How Soon is Now?"? When you shut down a show on the 2nd of January in Las Vegas (USA), Morrissey's career will be undefined. No record deal and without calls for new presentations, comes to Brazil for four dates in November in São Paulo--two, with the tour of "World Peace Is None of Your Business" album released in 2014.

After a contractual disagreement between the singer and his label, Harvest, the album was pulled from the streaming services and digital sales.

Political, the disc even mention Brazil -a work was created, according to Morrissey says the Leaf by email, as he followed the 2013 protests in the country.

Leaf - His novel, "List of The Lost", took everyone by surprise. As he began to write it?

Morrissey - I gathered the drafts as a script for the film and realized that my descriptions in writing, were probably better than the dialogues, then turned into a romance.

His autobiography was a bestseller in the UK in 2013. The aim then in literary career?

Never felt the need to go beyond singing, but sometimes we find ourselves in new situations. Especially for someone who, like me, always sure that the new can happen.

Say, to allow the publication of his autobiography, you required to Penguin that the work leave the classics of publishing seal. Is true?

No, it's not true. You can not decide if his own book is a classic, and you can not get in touch with Penguin and say, "Hello, I wrote a classic, print it immediately." The decision was the Penguin.

The fight against esophageal cancer, diagnosed in 2014, worried his fans. It was his most difficult experience? He learned anything from it?

I learned nothing! I suppose we all thought that we inhabit these bodies forever and can control them until the day we die. But it is not so, something always ends up with us. Unfortunately, it is the instinct of the people being careless with their own health.

There were rumors that you abandon the race. Come to think of it? What did-and still faz- continue?

It was "World Peace Is None of Your Business", which I believe is an extraordinary album which deserves to be heard, and the only way to make this possible was touring with him as much as I can.

You mention Brazil in the song "World Peace is None of Your Business". Are you interested in political and social issues of our country?

I wrote the song when thousands of Brazilians took to the streets to express their anger at government spending. It was another global example where it became evident that the will of the people is not a government concern, which only acts in its own interests.

All the news from people revolting against the power are reported by the BBC as something reprehensible, they are always protesters, never 'people of Brazil "or" the people of Egypt.' For them, if you act against the system ceases to be somebody. Already the police that beats you is always called "security force", even though she was the biggest cause of insecurity.

Journalists are often warned not to ask anything about the Smiths. This time there came the warning, and you talked about the band in a recent interview to the American presenter Larry King. Is more open to talk about it?

I did not mean to be rude with Larry because respect a lot. But there is absolutely nothing to say about the Smiths. Go ahead with this begins to sound like a language of the dead. You better sit in a dark bar ... Divagando on the Second World War.

There was a problem with the Harvest label of his latest album, which canceled its contract. What happened?

Never signed with Harvest, but when they received "World Peace Is None Of Your Business," the head of the label (Steve Barnett) sent a memo to all of the company: "Do not commit to Morrissey." Inadvertently included me the message! At that moment, I knew I wanted the album, but they did not want me. My attorney confronted the Harvest and they had to admit the truth. It is shocking that a record label in 2014 could dismiss such a magnificent album. They have not released anything comparable since.

Last year you published a book, released an album, overcame a cancer ... What plans for the future?

Two years very difficult, and I'm exhausted. No substantial interest in any record, then after the show in Las Vegas on January 2, I do not see how I can continue. We could actually be on tour forever, but it works more with new songs. Above all, it is the progress-not the nostalgia- that feeds you emotionally.

Joe Moss Rip

Posted by Brel (Members) at Fri 23 Oct 2015, 10:25:23. 2 comments

Sad news. Joe Moss, manager of The Smiths has died. News just breaking.

Edit. Johnny Marr has posted details on his website. Joe was 72. He had cancer.

Condolences to his family.

TTY: Morrissey's European Tour Concludes

Posted by mammaof3 (Mods) at Sat 17 Oct 2015, 23:26:20. 0 comments


Morrissey's European Tour Concludes
17 October 2015

Morrissey's European Tour Concludes
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Morrissey has commented:

"The tour was so fantastic that I am speechless ... therefore, no speeches, except to say ... in order of pulverization ...

1.Bucharest (Romania) 14 October
2.Budapest (Hungary) 12 October
3.London (England) 21 September / night 2
4.Hull (England) 18 September
5.Frankfurt (Germany) 30 September
6.Skopje (Macedonia) 16 October
7.Ljubljana (Slovenia) 10 October
8.Napoli (Italy) 7 October
9.Cesena (Italy) 8 October
10.London (England) 20 September / night 1
11.Cologne (Germany) 1 October
12.Lausanne (Switzerland) 4 October
13.Brussels (Belgium) 28 September
14.Plymouth (England) 15 September
15.Paris (France) 24 September

and ... Life is mine ... "

Zagreb, Croatia
17 October 2015

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2016 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Nominee Fan Vote

Posted by mammaof3 (Mods) at Thu 8 Oct 2015, 23:35:58. 2 comments


2016 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominee Fan Vote!

Vote now - and vote often - for the TOP FIVE nominees you think should be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! The fan votes will comprise a fans’ ballot that will be tallied along with the other ballots to choose the 2016 inductees to be announced in December!

Yeah, it might be pointless.... we know the members of the Smiths would not reunite even if they were inducted, but it's worth a couple seconds to voting anyway, isn't it? :D

Morrissey Interview: Rifa (Croatian magazine)

Posted by crashingbore (Members) at Wed 7 Oct 2015, 14:19:52. One comment


Google translate:

INTERVIEW Morrissey for Rif: Pop music has nothing to say, and what is worse, none of it does not even expected

Steven Patrick Morrissey, one of the most influential musicians in the world, enigmatic and controversial figure indie rock, 10 October a big concert in Ljubljana's Hala Tivoli. Morrissey has attracted attention as the frontman of the legendary The Smiths, one of the most important British rock bands that have served as a bridge between punk and brit pop.

With his intellectual and very poetic texts which are always touching romance and social alienation and unique theatrical performance, Morrissey was very quickly found its loyal audience.

The Smiths had a great cultural influence on many musicians and despite the relatively short discography century, preserved the impact to date. After only four albums released in 1987 Smiths falls apart, but that does not stop Morrissey that even after the dissolution of the band achieves extremely fruitful and successful solo career. Last year, announced its tenth consecutive album "World Peace Is None Of Your Business". His concerts are always energetic and particularly emotionally charged because in addition to songs from her solo career, Morrissey and often performed hits from the time of The Smiths. Unlike the studio version, Morrissey songs performed live in a much rougher arrangements.

Known vegan and outspoken campaigner for animal rights is also a sharp critic and opponent of the British monarchy. His autobiography was published in 2013 immediately, and became the best-selling book on the island. These days published the first novel "List Of The Lost", which began last year to write disappointed that today's radio stations are very few spinning his seemingly heavy music.

I have to sing

You are considered the greatest poet of British rock, the right of the words and also a special type of the uncommon way of talking about interpersonal alienation?

- Throughout our lives we go without knowing what people around us think about any subject. All have a strict policy term and firm boundaries. That's why I have to sing. Absolutely love songs, like many others, that saves my life.

You are known as a great fighter for animal rights, vegan you and for the common man have quite radical views on this issue?

- If you imagine a world without people, you see the Earth survives and flourishes very well. People have a problem. People need to destroy everything and kill. However, the country can not survive without animals ... Even without bees and other insects can not survive, but can not survive without human species. People are pests.

In addition to describing human relations and their intimacy, you also deal with political and social issues. And on the new album criticizing the existing social system?

- The system is corrupt and so will be as long as you participate in such a system. The age of the President and the Prime Minister passed. It is not working. People in politics do not find hope. Security forces there only to ensure safety laid elites. People have become enemies because people have the power ... But that, unfortunately, are not aware of. The police there to protect the rich from the poor.

Criticizing the great religions and the organization of the Church also is one of your constant?

- Nothing from the Bronze Age to us today does not mean anything. We live in very different times. Most religions a threat. For example, among the atheists no suicide bombers. Atheists will not bomb blow up other people. Only people who are obsessed sadistic sin cause maximum damage to the planet, and people who are deeply religious almost never have a sense of injustice, for whatever they preach. In the United States, so-called. "Bible Belt" usually has the highest level of crime and violence.

Writing is not a job

You seem to have in their views and even greater engagement within the exception of pop music than you were at the time of The Smiths?

- You're quite right. People in pop music have nothing to say, and worst of all, none of them do not even expected. The US is on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine Kim Kardashian. I think that says it all about the deterioration of the music.

Do you still so much, to make the world better?

- I think that, if you are a true author, you write, even if it does not read anyone else, or if you will not be published or recorded. If you are writing as this experience as a job, or because someone else asks you a new song, then you're not a real writer.

In the early songs of The Smiths and interviews emphasized are unhappy childhood and youth in his native Manchester. Is your career changed your life for the better?

- After I became a popular artist, I was very surprised by the fact that I remained the same person, no happier than before. Most of the time I still spend and do not experience the world a better place. This is regardless of the fact that today mainly live in the United States.

Morrissey headlining Chilean Primavera Festival, 14 Nov

Posted by goinghome (Members) at Sat 3 Oct 2015, 16:24:00. 2 comments

- Morrissey has now been added to headline the Primavera Fauna Festival in Santiago, Chile, on November 14 due to strong demand based on the overwhelming sales of tickets for his concert at Movistar Arena on November 11. - http://www.true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_151003_01

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Interview in suississimo

Posted by mammaof3 (Mods) at Thu 24 Sep 2015, 22:01:58. 4 comments

suississimo https://suississimo.wordpress.com/2015/09/23/morrissey-lausanne-is-very-much-my-first-home/

Publié le 23 septembre 2015 par zieggla

After two cancellations in the past year, on October 4th Morrissey is finally coming to the Métropole in Lausanne, a city he says has been a home for many years. In a new interview with the singer, Morrissey talks about the state of affairs for the music and media industry, the ties between music, politics and cultural identity, his first novel and how he is not about to « slow down and shut up ». Following his recent call for UK prime minister David Cameron to resign, as well as claims that he won’t be performing in the UK again. Morrissey opens up about how his music is moving forward and away from the place where he began. Morrissey’s novel List of the Lost is out this Thursday through Penguin.

They say that the third time is a charm, and for your fans here in Lausanne that seems to be the case as the past two dates here have been cancelled. Though, it seems there is a kind of affection you have for Lausanne as you have made continuous attempts to reschedule the shows here. It is a sort of lovely loyalty in sense as other cities have not been so lucky to be rescheduled as of yet. What is it about performing in Lausanne that makes you so intent on rescheduling?

I spend a lot of time in Lausanne and have done so for almost fifteen years. It’s very much a first home, not a second. It didn’t initially occur to me to play in Lausanne because FNAC only ever have one or two Morrissey CDs, so I didn’t sense any particular popularity. The last show was cancelled because of flu, and the odd thing was that everyone in the band and crew had the flu but I didn’t. It’s usually the other way around.

When you come to Lausanne, undoubtably in other cities as well, with your presence also comes a reawakening in the issue of animal rights. I say a reawakening because it seems the days of artists standing behind a cause both publically and financially has become a thing of the past – perhaps for fear of how it will affect their image, sales or whatever else.

You possibly over-rate people who make music! In 2015, they’re not actually very intelligent, which is the reason why the can become successful. Only the dumbo’s are allowed through.

How do you feel when you see entire festivals or venues change their policy on animals products being served or sold because of your demands and why do you think other artists aren’t as strong or absolute in their loyalty to beliefs?

It’s not a case of animal rights. It is a case of social justice. Perhaps you do not care about animals as such, but if you claim to be in possession of morality and decency then it should show itself by your protection of all beings that are in trouble. If we see someone fall over, we naturally rush to them. If we see a dog drowning, we would instinctively do all we can to help. We must apply the same empathy to the slaughterhouse and abolish it from our societies. Until this happens, the human race is savage.

How has your fidelity to your beliefs affected your career?

I haven’t ever thought in terms of a career. If you are controlled by your career then you’ve lost the ability to think for yourself.

How do you see the stature of an artist in terms of representing a certain idea or view- beit animal rights, abortion, police violence, etc now as opposed to a decade or two earlier?

The internet has completely changed the moral climate of the entire world. Just imagine what world leaders got away with in pre-internet days! Just imagine what the police got away with before iPhones and You Tube exposures! Politicians are always the last to join evolving societies because they don’t ever want the systems to change. We can also now see how people who question everything are usually punished by the power elite. Certainly in the UK we live in times that moral philosophers could consider fascist. There is a conservative lockdown on any criticism of the Boil Family. I cannot use the world ‘royal’ because there is no such thing as a royal person. There is a natural understanding of law, but there is also state law, and the latter keeps the rich protected from the poor, and it has no other function. You can campaign peacefully in the UK, but only if whatever you shout is out of earshot of those to whom it is directed.

How do you see a particular culture, or cultural identity, being reflected in the music that is created in that place? Is the music of a certain place, in fact, representitive of the culture where it is produced? If so, what would the music of Mexico, or England, say about its’ people?

We are all essentialized by our surroundings, and we either accept our surroundings or we define ourselves by kicking against our surroundings. But suddenly the world is one country, and we all understand this in very much the same way. In the England of 2015, music is not considered to be an explanation of anything. In the Mexico of 2015, there is great curiosity about the historical origins of social predicaments, and there are loud objections to unfairness. The so-called bullfight is one example. The people of Mexico do not want it as a symbol of their country.

As someone who is quite vocal and active politically, is it possible to compare what is happening in the UK politically with the music that is being produced? What about in the US or other places?

In England the art of the interview is dead. No one is allowed to pose meaningful questions. It has become very much like the America of the 1950s … entertainment is celebrity divorces and cosmetic surgery and food, and all TV interviews must be uproariously funny, and there is no how or why allowed. No independent thought anywhere, with constant sports news for events that have no national meaning. If we don’t fill up the time with sports news then we’re forced to face the issues of life.

You have now started on a new career, so to speak. First an autobiography that was praised for the poetic and lyrical language (no surprise!) and now a novel that is set to be released in just a few days (interview made the 21st of September). What was it like to go from recounting a factual acount of your own life to creating a story or another?

It doesn’t differ because you are still creating something that others … who haven’t done what you have done … will judge, so therefore it is best not to consider anyone other than yourself. If your happiness depends upon reviews then you might as well kill yourself.

How was your autobiography received by those who may have experienced the same moments you have written about with you?

I have absolutely no idea. Only two or three people have mentioned the book to me. I don’t know if people generally like or dislike it. It is still selling very well two years on.

Was it a kind of deep exhale for you to write your own story and did you do it because you wanted to be the one to set out your own story before others (i.e; the press, people from the past, etc) did it for you?

They will do so anyway! When you give up your privacy you are advised to accept insane things being written about you.

There is very little information about your novel, though you have said that it is, “An American tale where, naturally, evil conquers good, and none live happily ever after, for the complicated pangs of the empty experiences of flesh-and-blood human figures are the reasons why nothing can ever be enough. To read a book is to let a root sink down. List of the lost is the reality of what is true battling against what is permitted to be true”. Is there anything, as we are just days away from it finally coming out, that you could add to this description?

The theme is demonology… the left-handed path of black magic. It is about a relay team in 1970s America who accidentally kill a wretch, who, in esoteric language, might be known as a Fetch… a discarnate entity in physical form. He appears, though, as an omen of the immediate deaths of each member of the relay team. He is a life force of a devil incarnate, in his astral shell, thus one phase removed from life. The wretch begins a banishing ritual of the four main characters, and therefore his own death at the beginning of the book is illusory.

This kind of search for the truth in between the truth that is spoon-fed through, as you call them, “empty experiences” seems to be a common theme, that I can recognize even from early Smiths songs, to your solo work, including in your autobiography. This search for what is true and not just what appears to be true. How (and why) does this search play such a role in your life, music and writing?

Because I am a social writer, a witness, and I cannot stand unfairness. Unfortunately the basis of all human trade appears to be unfairness… from marriage to murder.

You have described the novelist as “intimate and indiscreet” and “pompous”; to what degree do these qualities play a role in your life- in your writing and in your own search for “truth”?

I think writers are soaking all of the time… from everyone around them, from everything that they see… they do not ever stop collecting for their own ends – which is OK as long as those ends are worth the trouble!

In these times where every image is uploaded and put on social media – photos, words and sound can be morphed and tweaked to whatever we want to suggest, what role does truth play? I am thinking specifically of the incident you described with the TSA agent assaulting you. In the exchange that you documented, the agent seems to deny your “truth” or experience and says, “That’s just your opinion.” To what degree is our own truth tainted by the continuously changing levels of what is acceptable in terms of treating those around us?

I didn’t ever receive a response from the TSA, so that’s a clear indication of their menace. Uniforms do terrible things to people, don’t they? This is especially true in America. Once you slip a uniform on you develop immediate bossy interference, and even if you over-step the boundaries of your own position you are exempt from harsh judgment. Even postal workers in America are extremely aggressive, and, of course, the police… by reason of their uniform and nothing else, hate anyone who is not afraid of them.

One thing that stands out from this particular incident is what you said, “The words « that’s just your opinion » volunteered themselves from this ‘officer’s’ mouth before he had even heard the question. He knew he could be confronted, but he also knew that he could never be challenged (even though the entire incident is most certainly on CCTV camera).”. The idea that the agent didn’t even listen to the questions, but instead already had a response, knew he could never be challenged (despite the CCTV footage) is exactly where this idea of what can be trusted or believed in these times. How do you see this question, this incident in your life and where these types of incidents, denials and abuses moving our society, in general?

When you are in uniform you are in hiding, and you need never explain your behavior. There is a blind belief reaction from anyone in authority that their behavior will be staunchly backed and defending by those who have the last judicial word. And this is true, unfortunately. The entire point of the police is to weaken our confidence. They have no other function. As soon as we see the police we begin to worry, not because we have done anything unlawful, but because we know that they have free reign to kill us. It’s a fact of life.

Lastly, with all of your health issues in the last few years and likewise with your continuation to tour, perform and be vocal about issues dear to your heart- was the movement to writing a chance to continue to use your voice; to explore, analyze, critique and expose what you see as injustices in a more consciously time to change my lifestyle to a more ‘hearthealthy’ way or was it more of a natural transition to do something that you had wanted and planned to do for some time?

I don’t think my position has changed. I am under stronger surveillance now because I am older and I have reached the age when I should slow down and shut up. Well, not so!

Interview by Amy Araya.

www.true-to-you.net for more info about Morrrissey.

Morrissey will be in concert at the Métropole Concert Hall in Lausanne, October 4th.

Morrissey’s List of the Lost is available the Thursday through Penguin Books.

Discussion thread for List of the Lost

Posted by mammaof3 (Mods) at Thu 24 Sep 2015, 03:39:05. 87 comments

Morrissey's novel "List of the Lost" is being released on September 24th. So here's the thread for those who have read Morrissey's novel and want to talk about it, while those who have not read it yet can avoid spoilers! Enjoy!! :thumbs

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TTY: PETA comments on David Cameron 'performing sexual act on a dead pig'

Posted by JoanOfArc (Members) at Wed 23 Sep 2015, 11:34:14. 2 comments


21 September 2015
PETA comments on David Cameron 'performing sexual act on a dead pig

'No, boys won't be boys - not when it's sexual perversion and also involves a vulnerable victim of slaughter, a feeling being who lost his or her life and then was used for a prank. Where have we seen other people in power misusing and sexually abusing corpses? This conduct is not excusable just because the perpetrator is prejudiced against and sneers at the other individual's identity. A prime minister is supposed to protect the most vulnerable. Most pigs in the UK already live lives filled with pain and fear, confined to severely crowded, filthy sheds and denied the opportunity to engage in any natural behaviour. They are routinely mutilated, usually without any anaesthetics, including castration and cutting off their tails and teeth. If the allegations made by Lord Ashcroft are true, that Mr Cameron performed a sexual act on a dead pig while at Oxford University, then it shows a callousness and complete lack of empathy entirely unbefitting a man in his position, and he should resign.

Tribute thread for Morrissey

Posted by Reggie Peppery (Members) at Fri 18 Sep 2015, 00:54:08. 4 comments

A thread to thank Morrissey, and tell him what he meant to you!!!

Moz, you saved my life, I can't tell you how gutted I am, yet all I can do is wish you the very best in your writing career!!!
Decades of following your every move and utterance, and I've loved every minute!!!

Morrissey take a bow!!!

I'm cracking open the beers, and taking Friday off work!!!

Thanks big man, I'm gonna miss you when you're gone!

Sorry about Mozwa!!!


Morrissey announces retirement on True To You.

Posted by Reggie Peppery (Members) at Fri 18 Sep 2015, 00:20:52. 19 comments

Morrissey has commented:

"There is absolutely no way that we can generate any interest from record labels in the United Kingdom, therefore the imminent two nights at Hammersmith are likely to be our final ever UK shows. We are obsessively grateful for all interest and loyalty from our audience ... throughout 28 years ... but without new releases, there is no point in any additional touring. Thank you for so many absolutely incredible times. The pleasure and privilege is mine ... "

Morrissey protests to Home Secretary about proposed dog testing

Posted by Reggie Peppery (Members) at Thu 17 Sep 2015, 23:17:36. 2 comments

Here’s the strongly worded letter he’s just sent to Home Secretary Theresa May on the issue:

I’m looking forward to my concert in Hull on Friday but was shocked to hear from my friends at PETA about plans for a new facility in nearby Grimston that would breed beagles to be used and killed in cruel experiments.

As I understand it, this hellhole would churn out thousands of dogs a year, confine them to a sterile prison (apparently without access to outdoor runs) and then sell them to laboratories to be injected, infected and dissected.

Anyone who has ever had the pleasure of knowing a dog can tell you that they are friendly, loyal animals who should be sleeping in our beds, not dying for Botox and Viagra. As an elected official, it’s your duty to represent the public – and I can tell you without a doubt that the vast majority of us do not want beagles’ blood on our hands. I am therefore urging you to do the right thing by denying this abomination of an establishment a licence.

Morrissey shop pops up at Battersea Dogs Home

Posted by Reggie Peppery (Members) at Wed 16 Sep 2015, 15:50:38. 3 comments

Morrissey has a pop up shop opening at Battersea dog home...limited quantities of signed vinyl, special dog tags and more are on offer...

Lucky old London!!!


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